Santorum rules, Hillary drools
Finally, a Republican is decrying Hillary instead of cozying up to her to soak up some of the limelight.
“When you look at the politics she would change, her ‘politics of meaning’ boil down to little more than feel-good rhetoric masking a radical left agenda,” Santorum said.
Wonder how long it will take McCain to demand an apology on Hillary’s behalf.
July 6th, 2005 13:48
I have a great book that you “rightys” should read. It is written by someone who was like many of you, but on the inside and saw how everything worked and was responsible for many of the views you currently hold on “liberals”, the Clintons, Rush Limbagh, Newt Gingrich, ect…
The book is not pro right or pro left at all, but instead is an apology for the things he did while working for the “right” and a DETAILED history of how the right works and has worked since the 60’s. He was knee deep in all the things said about the Clintons and Anita Hill, ect ect.
If you guys would like to know where these views come from, which ones are completely fabricated in an attempt to attack the “left”, how they were manufactured and why; this book would be very educational for you.
If you all are very secure in all your “possitive”, “optomistic” views in blaming and hating the “left”, you will have no problem reading the history of your views:
Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative
By David Brock
July 6th, 2005 14:14
Yeah, I would be interested in reading that.
You should read “The Death of Right and Wrong” by Tammy Bruce. She was once the president of a NOW chapter, a feminist lesbian ex-leftist. The book is unapologetically pro-right. She talks about being a leftist for many years until she finally realized the damage to our culture that was being done by some of the leftist causes she was helping to further.
It also gives background on where leftist views come from, which ones are completely fabricated in an attempt to attack the “right”, how they were manufactured and why. Sorry for the verbatim quote, but that stuff goes on behind the scenes on both sides of the fence unfortunately. Neither the “right” or the “left” is innocent of underhanded political moves, propagandizing, and ulterior motives.
July 6th, 2005 16:11
all i need to know about HRC.
when bill released his book, the two of them went on a tour of kahleeforneeahh.
while bill was peddling the book, HRC was stumping for money.
this seems funny to me somehow as i thought she was the senator from NY.
anyhow, she was speaking at a fundraiser in san fran and this was the money quote for me:
“Many of you are well enough off that … the tax cuts may have helped you,” Sen. Clinton said. “We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
that last part……..
common good???
hmmmmmmmm
scary.
July 6th, 2005 16:26
I am very aware of that book. The thing is that none of us (Matt, Bret or myself) blames the right for everything and have records of not supoprting and/or voting for many of their (the left) major views and candidates.
I am well aware of crap and corruption on both sides but I am sure the people on this site are not aware of it on the right at all and are convinced it doesn’t happen (or at least extremely little), which is evident in the comments found here.
I am sure they think they understand, but they do not. This is also the reason I suggested a book that is not a rightwing attack book. It surly points out a ton of anti-right things, but it the activities described, not the tone of the book that make them so.
Here is an example of the major problem with Tammy:
“It is in his (Saddam) nature to defile and destroy life. We’re now finding out it is in the nature of the Feminist and Gay Elite to not care as they bow to the God of Moral Relativism.”
“The Left wants a world where there are no rules, no morality, and no personal responsibility.”
This is amazing propiganda itself and not reality…you wont find this kind of partisan nonsense in the book I recommend to you.
Tammy spouts alot of religious bigotry towards women, blacks and even gays. Lots of religious “good and evil” (can you guess who is who?)talk that has no basis on reality and is full of projecting the characterists and views she needs her new enemy to possess.
She lumps together such disparate figures as Bill Clinton, Mumia Abu-Jamal and the “moral terrorist” Ozzy Osbourne as emblems of a monolithic Left. She decries academics’ rejection of all moral values, but when they do express a moral judgment-by condemning America’s “ethnic cleansing” of Indians, or the wartime internment of Japanese-Americans-they are guilty of “morally killing” America’s “heroes.”
This review of her book sums this book up nicely:
“Ms Bruce attempt to teach us whats right and wrong by holding the left responsible for all the Ills in our society falls way short. Her spin is really fascicm rolled up in the guise of being a morally superior culture, this book is as unreadable as her unlistenable talk show. Finger pointing never gets results, especially when the finger pointers have a history of being the proprieters of slavery, genocide and child and immigrant labor exploiters”
I am kind of insulted that this is the kind of book you would refer to me. I assure you “Blinded by the Right” is nothing like it at all. Everyone here can read it at Barnes and Noble without even buying it.
July 6th, 2005 18:17
Did you actually read it, or just the one-star reviews at Amazon? The one-stars regarding Blinded by the Right are just as bad as what you are quoting.
This review of “Blinded” sounds pretty fair-minded:
I doubt a mentally unstable guy who has changed from liberal to conservative back to liberal again has much to say of any value.
July 6th, 2005 18:27
No, I didn’t read the whole thing, but have spent a few hours with it at barnes and noble in the past.
I only quoted that review because I feel that it is acurate from what I read. The reviews for “Blinded” on amazon are not nearly as bad in any way. Plus there are only 48 reviews for “death of” in contrast to 342 for “blinded”!
My comments are accurate. Would you say otherwise?
July 6th, 2005 18:33
He addresses this charge of a “mental breakdown” in “blinded”s preface. Can you guess if it is real and accurate or spin and smear?
They had a very hard time trying to discredit him due to the detail and specifics he gives. He talks about this charge as one of the only ways they could go after this book.
Believe me, I don’t expect you to read it or like it as I am sure your opinions of what might be in it are deeply entrenched and not subject for change. Hillary is a lesbian demon after all!
There are only 48 reviews for “death of” in contrast to 342 for “blinded”. You will be able to find people who don’t like both with ease.
July 6th, 2005 21:21
Truly. But I’m not afraid to give any book a chance. I’ve even read Al Franken, Michael Moore, and some others of their ilk. From the title of this one tho, you can tell it’s going to be a hatchet job on the right, no matter what his back story. I don’t claim for a second that Tammy Bruce isn’t doing the same to the left, but I am predicting they are books of similar caliber. Did you think the review I quoted above was fair? The guy wasn’t taking a side, just saying that it had many half-truths and lies. In any case, I will reserve judgment until I read it, I am only making assumptions here based on the reviews.
July 6th, 2005 22:01
I don’t agree at all. This is not a hatchet job and is not written like one-I wouldn’t recommend a book like that to anyone…if you havn’t noticed a theme with us, we hate partisan propiganda more than anything.
It is more like an autobiography of someone who has done bad things as part of an organization doing bad things. It centers on the things HE did.
The quote is not accurate in my opinion. Is is not really written in such a way as to have half-truths and I haven’t even seen any right wing attack dogs claim he was lying (there must be some I am sure). Most reviews said it appears he is being completely honest and I agree that that seems very true. Also, much of it can be fact-checked and I have not seen anything even close to a lie. Other parts can’t be checked as they delt with personal conversations and the like.
I don’t agree that this book is like Al Franken and I definatly don’t agree that Al Frankin is like Michael Moore.
I listen to Al Franken all the time, have read his books and have never heard him lie. He often points out the lies of Rush, Hannity and ORielly, but uses their actual clips and then plays the clip of whatever evidence shows it to be a lie.
Ask Matt, the second I called him after Moores “911″, the first thing I told him was that it had clear lies and distortions. The same with Boling for Columbine. Its way to common for “righties” to lump any republican critic as a “michael moore” which is not accurate at all.
July 6th, 2005 22:51
Don’t misunderstand me, I wasn’t comparing Brock to Franken or Moore… i was just saying that I wasn’t afraid to read a leftist book, and cited those as examples. I’ll take a look at this one next time I’m at B&N, and I’ll give it a chance.
July 6th, 2005 22:55
Let me know what you think, it was surprising for me - not what I expected which is good as I have no intrest in smear books of any kind.
July 19th, 2005 11:42
You can’t recognize smear books for what they are.